In this week's edition of "The Hal Lindsey Report", in the light of recent developments in the Middle East, Hal replayed a program of his from April of last year, which was titled, "Should we, (the United States), support Israel?"

So, without any further explanation, here is the November 6th, 2009 edition of: -- "The Hal Lindsey Report."


Chess Fan

Well, Dr. David Jeremiah of Turning Point ministries is preaching an on-going weekly 10-part series of Bible teaching messages that has the overall title of: "Living With Confidence in a Chaotic World."

In this week's edition of this on-going series, Dr. Jeremiah preaches on the fact that we as saved believers in our Lord Jesus Christ can live lives that are committed to our Lord with a confident patience as we wait for the coming of our Lord for us through death or through the Rapture.

This patience is based on the confidence in the God that we serve because we **know** that He has **all things** under His total control!

The main Bible text that Dr. Jeremiah uses for this message is from the Book of James, Chapter 5, Verses 7 and 8.

So, here now is Part Nine of this teaching series: -- "Stay Committed."


Chess Fan

I know, and I think it is terrible. People turning away from god and joining fringe groups like Scientology, new ageism in its various forms, and the so-called "fundamentalist christian" sects.

These groups with their false prophets are extremely troubling. I have to say that I am gravely concerned every time I see you praising and posting links to such false prophets. I am concerned not only for your soul, but for the souls of all of those who do not understand that you've been mislead by these false prophets and will themselves be mislead.

A mind as closed as yours cannot be the work of the lord. there is some other, horrible, influence at work. May you come to true belief before you are called to judgment.

Spock, why are you outright **LYING** about me like this?!

You have **never** seen me "praising" or "posting links to" anything that supports ANY anti-Christ, non-Christian cults such as Scientology or New-age garbage!


Spock, your so-called "concern" is NOT against me, since I preach salvation through faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE; indeed, your concern seems to be that there MUST BE more than one way to be truly saved.

Sorry, spock, but there IS only **one way** to be truly saved!


Well, when it comes to eternal salvation matters, Jesus Christ Himself was ALSO close-minded.

Do you have any arguments against Him?


Ah, so, you believe that I am influenced by demonic forces, eh?!


No, actually spock, I pray that YOU come to true *saving belief* in Jesus Christ before YOU are called to judgment!


Chess Fan

CF do you or do you not repeatedly post links to Hal Lindsey's commentaries?

Hal Lindsey has repeatedly been exposed in recent days in this thread as a liar and a fraud: as a false prophet.

History is littered with people who sincerely believed the lies they were being told by false prophets. The fundamentalist movement is full of former leaders who were nothing but frauds.

Well, spock, Hal Lindsey has never claimed to be a "prophet" in the true sense of the word, in that, he has never claimed to speak directly from God Himself as the prophets of the Old Testament did.

Yes, Hal Lindsey has *not* been perfect in the things that he has talked about concerning the end times; but, again, he has *never* claimed to be a "prophet" of God, he is only a man who, in my opinion, has been used mightily OF God in these end times in which we live.

Once again, spock, I am **happy and privileged** to be able to call Hal Lindsey my "dear brother in the Lord Jesus Christ!"

** My dear spock, in your present spiritual condition, you have **infinitely** more to worry and concern yourself about than that person does whom you ignorantly call a "liar and fraud", (Hal Lindsey), a person you are concerning yourself with! **


Chess Fan

In this morning's message, (Sunday, November 8th, 2009), Pastor Loran Livingston of The Central Church of God in Charlotte, North Carolina shared a message with us from the Word of Almighty God in which he told us about how that the great God of the entire universe, the God Who created all things AND Who holds all things together by His power also loved we sinful human beings enough that He, (God), also provided the way of salvation to *every person* who will trust in Jesus Christ ALONE for their eternal salvation.

The main Bible text for this morning's message is from The Book of Hebrews, Chapter 1, Verses 1 through 3.


Chess Fan

Well, that may be true also, but I don't think it's quite the same thing. One position may be stronger than the other, but I don't think either one is based on outright fraud. The honest belief that the world is 6000 years old isn't quite the same as Geller or Popoff's exposure as a fraud. The internet is good at exposing outright quackery, but you're right that it doesn't guarantee that the most meritorious viewpoint will win, or be the loudest.

Yeah, but why do people still argue with him? He's always been the way you describe and always will be. You're so familiar with the drill that you know exactly where the argument is going next, including the fact that all your points will be ignored, so what do you hope to achieve? Here's a couple of C.S. Lewis quotes that describe CF so perfectly that you'd swear they must have met:




Eerie. And we see it here in a guy who sees the whole world in terms of himself. "My God, My Eagles, My Kasparov", everything is Me-Centered to the point that a modulator once actually had to set up an autobiography thread to try to drain some of the self love out of the other threads. Pointing it out to him, however politely, only leads to self pity. ("Boo hoo, people are against me. It must be because I'm a Christian because it couldn't possibly be any fault in ME, et cetera, et cetera.") You mean well but CF has chosen Hell, not stumbled into it accidentally. In four years of reading his posts I never once saw him show the slightest interest in God that wasn't directly related to some form of self promotion; either taking bows for his righteousness, or of saving his own hide from a holocaust, or something of that sort. Others mean so little to him that he cheers their impending deaths thinking it will benefit him personally, and turns it into a compliment when they're angered. I'm afraid your attempt to be kind is wasted here. All that penetrates the veil of self interest is that you want something from him, and only by denying it can he feel important. To agree with you would be to blend into the crowd, which he does not want.



Because his life is very empty. This world doesn't revolve around him and he thinks the next one will. It will, it just won't be Heaven.

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