2478 Members
10 Forums
2492 Topics
71196 Posts
Max Online: 351 @ 11/12/12 04:51 PM
|
|
|
#162792 - 05/30/12 12:55 PM
Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
|
Knight
Registered: 10/22/07
Loc: London
|
Anand is now amongst the all time greats in number of times winning the World Championship. Consider the table in this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_ChampionshipOnly Botvinnik (with 5) and Lasker (with 6) have won more undisputed championships (and that is not counting the FIDE disputed title he had). He has not been convincing as a champion at all- and even his defences with Topalov and Gelfand are rather close, however looking at the bare statistics of how many times he won or defended the title- he is getting close to the top all time.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#162793 - 05/30/12 01:06 PM
Re: Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
[Re: REMIT]
|
Ninja
Registered: 08/31/04
Loc: Doo-Wah-Diddy, Mississippi
|
He has not been convincing as a champion at all- That's a statement of opinion, not fact. I have no opinion on the matter at all, because I'm not sure what it means. Anand has convinced me that he's the champ. What more convincing is necessary? In your opinion, how many champions are "convincing" (and what does that mean?)?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#162797 - 05/30/12 02:04 PM
Re: Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
[Re: REMIT]
|
Knight
Registered: 03/24/09
Loc: NJ
|
If Carlsen had not chickened out, there is a chance that he would have been in Gelfands place as the challenger and eventual loser and then half the Chess world would be calling Anand the greatest of all.
But hey, Carlsen chickened out. Perhaps waiting for an older, weaker Anand over whom he can get a walkover. Only time will tell if Anand comes back stronger or weaker in the next cycle.
_________________________
lurker
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#162798 - 05/30/12 02:28 PM
Re: Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
[Re: REMIT]
|
Ninja
Registered: 08/31/04
Loc: Doo-Wah-Diddy, Mississippi
|
he hasn't convinced me of his superiority. And he doesn't need to, to be champion. It's amazing how many people regard these championships as a scientific experiment rather than a sporting contest. If you win the Superbowl, you don't have to prove that you would have won it 100 times out of 100 under laboratory conditions. You only have to prove that you won it on the one real day that actually mattered. It's a game. If you find his performance to be so poor that you're personally convinced he'll lose it next time, that's fine. See you in 2 years.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#162799 - 05/30/12 03:18 PM
Re: Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
[Re: REMIT]
|
Ninja
Registered: 03/20/03
Loc: Hyderabad
|
his last 2 world championship title defences have not convinced me that he is better than his opponent at classical chess. Well, just for that matter, nobody other than Kasparov and Ivanchuk has beaten him in a classical match either. Neither Karpov, nor Kamsky, nor Shirov, nor Kramnik, nor Topalov, nor Gelfand now. And I think in one of the earlier exhibition matches, he had roundly beaten Ivanchuk too. Therefore, looks can be deceptive. And don't forget the ten consecutive years of Mainz rapid matches (8 games each) that he played in and won against every known player of repute today, until he was dethroned by Aronian. Head-to-head Anand is very difficult to beat.
_________________________
The fellow who thinks he knows it all is especially annoying to those of us who do.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#162802 - 05/30/12 03:51 PM
Re: Anand- FIDE Champion 5 times, 4 undisputed
[Re: Petrosianic]
|
Rook
Registered: 02/20/08
Loc: Washington, DC
|
Just thought I would throw out Nakamura's tweet:
"I must be a very bad chess player since I keep liking Anand's positions and he keeps offering draws instead of trying to win."
Interesting and snarky as usual.
_________________________
I willfully participate in a campaign of misinformation.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|