You need to leave the board in embarassment because you made unsubstantiated allegations against me calling me a troll.

My claims are not only substantiated but also corroborated by other people such as Chessfan, Chessbuff and Russianbear amongst others.

GC, Let's not give the troll the attention he so desperately seeks.

I substantiated my allegations: Post count does not decrease when messages are deleted. Petrosianic accounted for 80 of your messages when your post count said that you had posted 80 times. It follows that no one deleted the messages that you claim were deleted. Nonetheless, you have accused the moderators of abusing their power. This is trolling, for it is a baseless attempt to interfere with the normal operation of this forum.

Even now you are trolling, in that you refuse to address the criticisms leveled at you and instead point everything at me, apparently in an attempt to make me angry. Unfortunately for you, I don't get angry.

Ok, what I am going to say probably is not going to be popular, but here goes:

enpassant: I've read most of your recent posts and I believe you didn't do anything wrong. Well, except for the fact that you let this conversation continue as long as it has, as now it has taken over this thread. I haven't read all your posts, but the way I understand it, all you did was question the job moderators were doing on this forum (and that was done by people other than you -but also myself, and some others). But you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Petrosianic is not someone who will let things like that go; so he kept attacking you (often about things that were inconsistant or incompatible with what you actually wrote) on that so you felt compelled to explain yourself. And then other people have started attacking you, so you had to explain yourself even further. Sorry to say it, but at this time and place you are a convinient target for a variety of reasons. Again the only thing you did wrong is take over this thread with this latest argument - but given your relative inexperience it is an honest mistake. Just a word of advice: stop posting in this thread, and don't think you need to address every single thing - even if you are right on every single one. Just know that there are people who are perceptive enough to tell what's REALLY going on, even if it doesn't seem that way.

I don't know how the messageboard post count works. But, I do know that many of my posts have been deleted.
This is because I know what messages I have posted and what messages have been deleted. I have no way of proving that my messages have been deleted or who has deleted my messages.

I don't care whether you are angry or happy or embarassed.


Can you prove that my messages were not deleted? I should have a better knowledge of my messages than you .

Guilty as charged by the look of it.

I've probably been more patient with you than you deserve already, but I repeat my suggestion that you have rondino test the effect that deleting messages has on your post count. As it stands now, there's a fairly convincing argument that you just made all this up. If you can prove that your post count changes when a message is deleted, I'll offer you a retraction and say that you might be telling the truth. Of course then it would be your word against Petrosianic's.

Posted by enpassant

So you say many of your posts have been deleted. Petrosianic says one or two of your posts at most have been deleted. Petrosianic backed up his claim with evidence. Now it is your turn to back up your claim with evidence. GC had a good idea there. Take note of your post count, then ask a mod to delete a specificed number of posts, and then check your post count again, and let us know what you find.

Or, perhaps we can do it more "scientifically". With the involvement of the mods (note the key phrase 'involvement of the mods'), create a temporary new account and post 10 messages. Then have the mods delete half of them.

Or perhaps the mods could post under a temp account and then delete some of the messages. We could then analyze the results, write up an introduction, show our methods, show the results, then discuss the results (need an abstract too). Then we can publish and get that grant money we keep begging for. Ok, maybe not. But I'd still like to see what results we get.

Enpassant, in previous posts you asked Mig to delete your account because you no longer wanted to post here(?), but now you've changed it to delete my account if I'm guilty. While I do hope you stay around (I think you have some things to add to this board) if you truly want your account deleted so you can't post then 1) just don't post, or 2) deliberately break the rules and create a second account, ignore warnings, and then get yourself suspended.

Again, it would be nice if you stayed and added some good content like you're capable of so don't take the following the wrong way---but please stop asking for the deletion of your account....it is like you're giving away your power of choice to someone else and comes across as maybe a bit childish and/or passive-aggressive ??? (from my perspective anyway...and I could be completely wrong about my interpretations). But the choice is yours...don't voluntarily give away your choice and let someone else make it for you. It makes you an unnecessary victim. And I hope this doesn't come across as condescending either. I tried not to so my apologies if it comes across that way.

Post count does not decrease when a post is deleted. For example, I just deleted a whole bunch of posts of a CN member, and the post count for the member in question did not change. Sorry not to weigh in on this topic earlier, but I assumed this was common knowledge (inky makes this point regularly).

I'm not sure why you can't find your posts, enpassant. In fact, I have racked my brain trying to come up with reasonable alternative explanations, but I have been unsuccessful. Occam's Razor suggests that the error is yours. It seems likely that you have made a simple, honest mistake. If you have not made a mistake -- if in fact you have had upwards of 10 posts deleted at CN -- then we are left with an unsolvable mystery.

Either way, it makes no sense to pursue this any longer. Your case is unwinnable, and the bulk of the factual evidence -- at least from the point of view of this relatively disinterested and neutral observer -- is against you. It is time to put this dispute to rest. You have made your case against Petrosianic. He has responded. And that is where this should end.

To All Concerned Parties: This thread is now devoted to finding new moderators for CN.

From now on I expect posts to be topical. Off-topic posts will be deleted with extreme prejudice. Beware the Word of Mod!

(Jeez, I'm gonna miss saying things like that... )

Cheers.

EDIT: Ken, if your sweetie is telling you to accept a modship if offered, how can you refuse? Are you really going to refuse your sweetie? Sweeties should never be refused, Ken. For anyone who has ever been in a long-term relationship, this is common knowledge. It's what keeps sweeties sweet. As far as I'm concerned, your choice is clear: Do what your sweetie says, or else!

I’m breaking a fellow mod's instruction: but I think this should be cleared up.


enpassant: (Are you my ex-husband? He always signed his letters enpassant,) If you have kept copies of all you posts, then you would know for sure which ones have been deleted. You could even re-post them, and have them deleted once more.

Since the post count never changes when messages are deleted, this would be the only way to know for sure.

If you have not kept copies of all your posts (I certainly don't keep copies of mine, although I will of this one, then there is no way to prove anything one way or another and everyone who professes to know should be viewed as misinformed.

hugs, inky