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June 30, 2005
After the Game
Much is being made of Kasparov's move from chess to politics, a high-profile player entering a high-profile field. But what do other GMs get up to when they stop playing? Apart from coaching, writing, chess politics, and other chess-related activities, that is. American GMs have a deserved reputation for early departures from the chess world and so have something of a head start.
One of the highest profile GMs is Kenneth Rogoff, who was high up at the International Monetary Fund and is now a Harvard prof. He didn't exactly set the chess world on fire, but he came a close second in the US championship in 1975 behind Browne and made a respectable Interzonal score.
Gata Kamsky would be the other side of this coin, a huge chess success who fiercely kept out of the public eye in the "private sector" before his current return to the game. (He's playing at Corus next year!) Any European GMs give up the game before reaching 30? Jeroen Piket seems out of the game and into business life. Valery Salov hasn't played since 1999 and had something of a public nervous breakdown. I don't know if his bizarre sites are still being updated, or what he's doing to pay the rent these days. I hope he's found peace. Others? Many women players are "lost" to motherhood.
The oft-posited (by chessplayers) theory that being good at chess is an indicator of broader aptitudes or even genius hasn't really had much of a practical workout.
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With a few notable exceptions, I would think that those who truly would be good at a broad range of activities would not be those who achieved a super-high level at chess. Why? Because I believe those who have a true interest in multiple activities would not be able to focus enough on chess alone to be able to advance that far. I know, myself, that I have a deep passion for music, writing, chess, computers, and foreign affairs. I find myself stretched thin between my various passions, and though I can become quite good at all of them, I don't believe I can become a true high-level master of any of them. I always believed if I could concentrate on just one then I could really achieve something, but I just can't abandon my other loves. Can a true elite GM in chess successfully switch from chess to something else? I am sure they can, but can they achieve the same elite status? That I am unsure of, except perhaps on issues such as what Kasparov is pursuing, where celebrity often means as much as ability.
Posted by: knight_tour at June 30, 2005 03:37Taimanov, cough cough
Posted by: MD at June 30, 2005 05:26I was looking through a book about the olympiad in Lucerne 1982 and there I saw a name i didnt recognize, James E. Tarjan, 1. reserve in the team of USA. He had good results, 7 points out of 9, no losses. See here http://www.olimpbase.org/1982/1982usa.html
I made some researches on the internet and saw he played five olympiads, 1982 was his last. His results: 32 wins, 13 draws and 6 losses in 51 games, that makes 75,5%. See here http://www.olimpbase.org/olimpbase_players.php Some more information on Tarjan: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=23094
Seems like he chose a career as a librarian.
By the way, wheres Josh Waitzkin, has he given up chess?
Posted by: Aalsteinn at June 30, 2005 11:20And what of Waitzkin's nemesis Jeff Sarwer, world champion in his age group and protean talent who once sat on a GM commentary panel for a K-K match in the 80's and out-guessed the adults trying to predict candidate moves? He and his sister terrorized the under-12 chess community until they were suddenly pulled from the game by their sociopathic father (Rustam Kamsky had nothing on Mike Sarwer).
There was a desperately sad Vanity Fair profile on the Sarwers in the late-80's, after which they dropped from sight altogether. Does anyone know what became of Jeff and his family? It was a big loss for chess' future at the time.
Posted by: Clubfoot at June 30, 2005 12:17I don't know if Josh seriously studies chess anymore. It seems he is excelling in another field - Push Hands Tai Chi Chuan. He has won National Championships and World Championships in Tai Chi Chuan competitions.
Posted by: snits at June 30, 2005 14:09Why is Kamnsky back to chess?! Was he not doing well financially outside of chess?
Posted by: ecm at June 30, 2005 14:48Interesting topic!
Two former American prodigies, who became IMs, Stuart Rachels and Ken Regan, quit chess before age 30 (maybe before age 20!) to go on to successful academic careers in, respectively, philosophy and computer science. (They write papers that are way more esoteric than any theoretical novelty in the Ruy!)
I guess Reuben Fine was the strongest American ever to give up chess to pursue another career. He became a Freudian psychologist, and a fairly prominent one, I believe.
As to whether chess is an indicator of broader aptitudes, let me quote the excellent film Dirty Pretty Things: "Good at chess means bad at life."
Posted by: r at June 30, 2005 15:19In the US I would think of Dlugy and Patrick Wolff and in Europe besides Piket (nowadays personal assistant of Van Oosterom) Mathew Sadler.
Posted by: Sofie at June 30, 2005 15:30Also Michael Wilder (US Champ 1988) gave up chess before age 30 to go to law school and watch kung fu movies full-time.
Posted by: r at June 30, 2005 16:09Chess, as in life, if you are a jack of all trades, you become a master of none. Tarjan is indeed a librarian and raising his family in Palo Alto, CA. Dlugy is in jail in Perm, Russian on maybe another trumped up charge by the old soviet rulers. Rachels plays bridge today as recreation. If you are not in the, at least, top 100 in the world, making a living at chess, is a long pursuit! I achieved USCF National Master status, play rated tournament games of about 15 at most a year, and work my ass off in geotechnical engineering full time!
Posted by: Morrowind at June 30, 2005 16:32Whatever happened to former British chess champion Julian Hodgson? He hasn't played in the Bundesliga
or competed for his old title of British chess champion in several years.
Last I heard of him was he was teaching chess at some upper crust British boy's school, but that has been at least 4 years ago.
Jeff Sarwer was a good kid. Somebody met him on a bus not so long ago in Ontario. I never had anything to complain about in his dad, but perhaps he took the kids into hiding because the kids, like the Polgar sisters later, did not go to school and they were being sought by authorities.
The funniest show on Canadian TV is "22 Minutes" produced by Henry Sarwer-Foner. I wonder if he is related?
Top Canadian players: Frank Anderson and Peter Biyiasas both emigrated to California. I think Anderson's day job was as a scientist, but he also advertised financial advice in a small add in Chess Life (or was it Chess Review?). Biyiasas worked for IBM and then set up his own software company. Likewise, Duncan Suttles had (has?) his own (software) company. Abe Yanofsky became a lawyer and mayor of West Kildonan. After amalgamation, he was an alderman on Winnipeg City Council. Rumour has it that Alexandre Le Siege is playing online poker professionally. Bluvshtein is still in high school. Tyomkin plays and teaches. And to round out the Canadian GMs, Kevin Spraggett dabbles in chess politics. He has also staged a remarkable ELO comeback at the advanced age of 50.
What ever happened to Sarwer's 1988 match opponent in Saint John, Gabriel Schwartzman?
Posted by: Jonathan Berry at June 30, 2005 19:53How about Matt Sadler and David Norwood? Both are pretty strong GMs.
Posted by: saguni at June 30, 2005 20:52Hey Mr Berry, don't forget IM Lawrence Day, your journalist counterpart to the east, as well as the greatest of them all, the late Bryon Nickoloff. For those unfamiliar with this underachieving IM, Nickoloff was the Sid Vicious of chess, scalp-conqueror of Joel Benjamin and David Norwood, and missed Shirov by a whisker in their lone encounter while the latter was world #3. But heavy living took its heavy toll and he left chess for the afterlife last summer.
Speaking of Norwood, didn't he get into the money business? He interviewed in New In Chess in the late 90's commenting about the infamous Bankers Trust open casting call for chess masters.
Posted by: Clubfoot at June 30, 2005 23:54As a side note, I knew Peter Biyiasis' wife a number a years ago, about the time he joined IBM. I can't swear the following tale is true, but if so it is certainly a telling story about professional chess.
As I heard the story, one cold winter's day Peter was playing in a tournament near San Francisco. He was staying with some friends, as were several other players in the same tournament. After some of the players got into a disagreement over which one of them could sleep nearest the fireplace that night, Peter took stock of his surroundings and life and basically decided he deserved better. That's when he took a programming class, aced it, and was hired by IBM.
Paul
Posted by: PaulM at July 1, 2005 00:53If you're an American chessplayer, the economic incentive to stay in the game just doesn't seem to be very strong compared to other economic opportunities here. The pressure to make chess economically viable proved too much for Fischer. I think you should add him to your list. He gave up chess for antisemitic paranoid schizophrenia. Hey, I'm glad there's a preview option now, for posting. It gives me the opportunity to add that I admire Kasparov more for what he's doing right now than anything he did in chess and that's saying a lot since Kasparov may have been the greatest chessplayer of all time. Kudos to you, Mig, and to chessbase, for shining the spotlight on Kasparov's political activities. I hope Kasparov stays in the game, the game of statesmanship. He has my support.
Posted by: Jeremy Good at July 1, 2005 05:31Someone is bound to mention the great Paul Morphy who gave up chess to become a lawyer. May as well be me. ;-)
Posted by: Jeremy Good at July 1, 2005 05:35I have the greatest admiration for Kasparov but this particular field he has chosen, politics, is very dangerous, anywhere in the world. His celebrity status is not a protection. Even Gorbachov almost lost his life on a couple of ocassions... Just for comparison, among other things, Karpov partially owns a car manufacturing company.
Posted by: alphonse halimi at July 1, 2005 08:17Here is Tal Shaked. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/tshaked/
Posted by: Jeremy Good at July 1, 2005 13:36Kamsky at Corus--deserving or not? Personally, I was never a big fan of Gata's, but I would like to hear everybody else's opinion.
Valery Salov . . . the illegitimate love child of Adenoid Hynkel and L. Ron Hubbard . . .
Posted by: Yuriy Kleyner at July 1, 2005 21:44Kamsky's in Corus because he's American. I hope he'll shine but I fear he won't, since he's been away from top opposition for ten years.
Posted by: JWS at July 2, 2005 00:50Yes, joining the legions of Americans invited to Corus over the years. Can you name the last ones? Feel free to include the B and C groups.
Kamsky is there because he is a world-class player making news by returning to the game. It's a perfect pick because it's a story. Everyone will be watching to see if he does great in this first big test or flames out. Comeback stories are classic.
Posted by: Mig at July 2, 2005 01:25I was limiting the discourse to GMs. Frank Anderson was not a GM, but he did have the norms. Furthermore, Nickoloff and Day are less interesting in terms of this thread because they did (do) not have a career outside of chess.
Aside from Anderson, another Canadian whose potential GM title fell victim to Cold War politics was Fedor Bohatirchuk. He was already 57 when he immigrated to Canada. He became a professor of Radiology at the University of Ottawa and a strong influence upon the same Lawrence Day.
Lest we forget, another immensely talented player, Igor Ivanov, has recently been found by FIDE to have the required norms and is a GM. He is also a musician (cello and piano), athlete, and a poet of life. At the World Active (Rapid) Championship in Mazatlan 1988, Igor swam out to the island in the bay. That wasn't like doing 20 laps in a pool, the island was waaaaaaaay out there. Upon reaching the island he looked around for a few minutes then prepared to swim back to the mainland. However, he put his foot in the water and immediately felt excruciating pain. Not knowing the nature of what had just happened, he decided to continue the long swim home. Fortunately for the chess world, he made it. It transpired that he had stepped on an echinoderm, a sea urchin. The doctor gave him a shot (adrenaline?) to counteract the pain, which had not lessened during that time. Like Paul Bunyan, Igor is a character who does not need a retirement career.
Posted by: Jonathan Berry at July 2, 2005 12:29Jonathan, Igor Ivanov, who you mention, is that the same Igor Ivanov, who is mentioned on chessbase: http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2475 a guy, who is going through chemo-therapy?
Posted by: Aalsteinn at July 2, 2005 19:51"Can you name the last ones? Feel free to include the B and C groups." Onischuk and Nakamura, this year and last. Concerning Kamsky, his rating and career accomplishments are good enough for A-group (unlike the above two) but he's certainly no more qualified than a host of others who won't be playing. The "comeback" story may factor into his inclusion but his nationality was probably what sealed the deal. Tournament organizers care about appealing to major markets and the USA is one of the biggest.
Posted by: JWS at July 3, 2005 00:38Arnold Denker became a very successful businessman after he found he could not make a living at chess, in spite of winning the US Championship. Later in life he gave a great deal to charity, including funding the various Denker prizes for American scholastic players.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2119
GM Timman wrote a very nice memorial to him (Denker passed away earlier this year at the age of 90) in New in Chess.
Posted by: Duif at July 9, 2005 22:57Jeff Sawyer --
Any one know if he's done interview about his life in chess ? Julia Sawyer ? where are they now ?
do they regret playing
Nasser Abbasi
He was very strong player in 1994 ! Seemed like he was at least IM level, moving up even higher
Does anyone know what he's doing now ? Does he have website ?
Nasser Abbasi was a very good friend of mine. Last I heard, he was in California. If anyone knows what he is up to, let me know!
Posted by: fluffy at February 19, 2006 14:45As for the final story on Jeff Sarwer, read this. http://www.journalism.indiana.edu/gallery/ethics/minor.html
Posted by: Foufou at April 21, 2006 12:34This is far from the final story, ending with a casual rumor and leaving a 15-year cavity. Perhaps Mr Berry should tell us more about his friend's chance meeting with JS on a city bus...!
Posted by: Clubfoot at April 22, 2006 05:08A few other names worth adding to this thread:
IM Norman Weinstein - gave up chess and got rich (just how, I can't recall).
IM James Sherwin - Rare combination of success in both chess and business AT THE SAME TIME. I think he played in at least one US Championship in 1960s (when it was a closed, elite tournament with only 10 to 20 top players); all the while climbing the corporate ladder to become CEO (or was it COO?) of at least one big public corporation. Then, caught in a 1980s scandal, he was convicted of stock manipulation and sentenced to prison, but the conviction was overturned on appeal. Now in his late 70s, he still competes in US tournaments.
Craig Chellstorp and Ross Stoutenborough -- They finished 1st and 2nd in the 1972 US Junior Invitational (Larry Christiansen was 3rd.) Both left chess within a few years later, before attaining a title. It's fair to say both were at least 2400 strength in 1972.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 23, 2006 13:07Coincidentally, I was just looking through an old issue of CL&R and came across its account of the '72 Junior championship Aside from it being won by two players who would soon leave chess, there were a couple of interesting things.
One, Tim Taylor - of the recent Hungarian adventure contretemps in Chess Life - participated and was accompanied by his wife. This is the only time I can remember a Jr. Ch. participant being married at the time (although I haven't exactly been keeping tabs on the matter).
Second, future grandmaster Christiansen was knocked out of a tie for second place in a last round loss to someone named Jon Jacobs. (Whatever happened to that guy?? Any help in tracking him down would be appreciated!)
Brian
Posted by: Brian at April 24, 2006 09:05Thanks, Brian, for helping me sneak that in. My final-round game against Larry was a "must-win" for me, because the result put me me a last-place TIE, with Danny Kopec, at 1.5 / 7. Had I not won, I would have had last place all to myself. ;)
That was the beginning of the end of my personal chess ambitions. On the whole my play was the strongest in my life, before or since, but I was simply out of my league. I did blow a number of won games, but not through crude blunders; apart from quick losses to the 2 weakest entrants other than myself (Takashi Kurosaki and Craig Barnes), the rest of my games were long, complicated see-saw affairs.
Taylor, for instance, essayed an unsound response to my Albin Countergambit - 1.d4 d5 2. c4 e5 3.exd5 d4 4.e3? Bb4+ 5.Bd2 dxe3 6.Qa4+ (6.Bxb4? exf2+ 8.Ke2 fxg1(N)+! is a well-known trap). I played 6...Bd7 7.Qxb4 exd2+, when Black's compensation for the pawn is probably not quite sufficient, and eventually went down to defeat. Instead, Black would be winning after 6...Nc6! 7.Bxb4 exf2+ 8.Kxf2 Qh4+ 9.g3 Qd4+.
An even bigger hearbreaker was my game with tournament winner Chellstorp. Playing White in a Ruy Lopez, I got the better of his Chigorin Defense. By move 25 I had an extra pawn and was well on the way to snuffing out his counterchances. Then the difference in our strenghts began to assert. I found myself gradually, inexorably outplayed. I rejected at least one draw offer, but by adjournment time Black, although still a pawn down, had enough counterplay (2 Bishops in an open position) that his chances probably were at least equal. I stayed up all night preparing various traps. To my chargin, Chellstorp's sealed move differed from the one that all my adjournment analysis started from. The adjournment session continued for another 20 or 30 moves, during which Chellstorp's pieces grew ever more active, until my position finally collapsed.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 24, 2006 09:53And in the very next issue I see that you tied for 1st in that year's Junior Open, ahead of future IMs John Watson and Elliott Winslow!
BTW, whatever happened to Craig Barnes, who tied for 3rd in the Invitational?
Brian
Posted by: Brian at April 24, 2006 19:51Brian,
If you have Chess Life issues from way back then, check out Nov. 1971. It has that classic cover pic of Fischer and Evans in a swimming pool, with a wooden chess board floating between them on which they are analyzing a game!.
There's an account in there of that year's Junior Open. I was highest-rated on the wall chart, ahead of Christiansen and Biyiasas! I got crushed by a local A-player in round 3, but it was well worth it. That game topped the column of 4 games from the Junior Open that appeared alongside the full-page narrative (written, by the way, by its TD: none other than Hanon W. Russell, better known today as the owner of Chesscafe and the USCF book and equipment concession!).
So there's my loss at the top of the left-hand column...And, what do you think occupies the remaining two columns on the same page? Well, the headline is: "Fischer Leading, 4-1/2 - 2-1/2". And there alongside my game, are 6 games from the Fischer-Petrosian final Candidates' Match!
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 24, 2006 23:03Not sure what happened to Craig Barnes; he may still be playing. Kurosaki is, and (like me) is currently rated the same or a little lower than he was in '72.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 24, 2006 23:09I remember you from that U.S. Junior open Jon. I was just a little local twerp back then but I did take home the top 14 year old trophy. A partner my age and I won the casual U.S. Junior "siamese" championship. We beat (I swear this is true) Larry C. and Bruce Harper best 2 out of 3 in the finals. Didn't you have some pretty big 70's hair back then?
Posted by: whiskeyrebel at April 25, 2006 00:54In re: whether players are still active. The USCF maintains a database of current and past members, and their tournament records since 1991. These records apparently data back to the early 1980s, so many former members from the 1970s will not be listed. Non-members have free access to this database.
Craig Barnes may have gone into software engineering. One other prominent player from the early 1970s, Robert Gruchacz, died very recently. His online obituary is in the Chicago Tribune.
Posted by: Pseudonym1 at April 25, 2006 12:54Pseudonym, you just got me depressed. I knew Gruchacz very well, we were perennial rivals throughout our high school years, and he had an influence on me. When I won the Continental Junior (1971?), he was my only loss. That game led me to take up the double-fianchetto with White, which I still employ to this day.
I did not know Gruchacz had died; I am stunned. This comes just a few days after a reunion dinner of alumni of a former employer, where I learned that a former colleague and contemporary who I had much admired, Craig Dunlap (not a chess player, to my knowledge), also died recently.
I recall that Gruchacz was a physics major in college, got both a Wall Street job and an IM title soon after graduating, and gave up chess as soon as he got the title.
FYI, the USCF MSA (ratings inquiry) database, which is open to the public and extremely easy to use, only goes back to 1990, not 1980. FIDE has a similar rating-search feature available to the public, as many readers will know.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 25, 2006 13:56Whiskey,
So you remember me from the '71 Junior Open? Unfortunately for me, you've gotta stand in line. That tourney seems to be my claim to fame -- or is it infamy?
People running the gamut from Larry Parr (the ex-Chess Life editor and rgcp gadfly) to a recent ICC blitz game opponent (his handle was "Akdog"; I didn't get his name) have told me they remember me from that tournament. Invariably, they cite my 24-move loss to local A-player Mike Montchalin, on the Black side of an Albin Countergambit.
I really can't explain the staying power that seems to have. A pre-tournament favorite suffering an upset loss is hardly unusual, in a Junior Open or any other event. (For instance, I notice that Salvijus Bercys lost to a low-rated player in an early round of the National K-12 championship last week. I doubt he'll be hearing about it from strangers 35 years from now.)
I guess it must be either the very deep-rooted chess culture of the Pacific Northwest (people on both sides of the border seem to really take their chess to heart, the way people here in the Northeast take baseball and basketball); or, the prominent placement that Chess Life gave to its coverage of the tournament. With the Montchalin-Jacobs game score sharing the top of a page with the Fischer-Petrosian WCC Candidates' final, it's a good bet that 10 times as many people saw my name as would have otherwise. Maybe it subliminally registered.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 25, 2006 14:12Jon, wow..sorry. I didn't mean to contribute to you getting wound up over bad memories. If it makes you feel any better about that loss to Montchalin he spent many years in the 2200-2300 range.
Posted by: whiskeyrebel at April 25, 2006 18:31Don't worry, Whiskey. I didn't mean to sound annoyed; and frankly, I truly am happier being known for a loss, than unknown altogether.
And I see you are correct about Montchalin. I assumed he had dropped out of chess before 1980; but I now see that he has remained (somewhat) active. He last played in 2003, in the Oregon Championship. And his latest rating is 2190 -- which is all of 1 (one) point away from mine! Perhaps he and I will be reunited over the board one of these days!
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 25, 2006 18:48Whiskey, upon arriving home a couple hours ago I just got an email that relates directly to the above comments, and should be of great interest to you. Post your email address here, and I will forward it to you. Alternately, if you know Bill McGeary, email him and ask him about it (tell him you're from the Northwest and I sent you).
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at April 25, 2006 23:53Thanks Jon. I knew who Bill McGeary was by sight but I never met him. Here's my email address: whskyreb@centurytel.net thanks in advance..
Posted by: whiskeyrebel at April 26, 2006 01:37I was wondering what happened to some of the also-rans players who competed regularly in High School, but then left the game. These were the guys who never became champions, but werent complete unknown either. I grew up in the Main Line suburbs of Philadelphia (just west of the city), and distinctly remember a strong player named Michael Pastor. In December 1972, I went up to New York City to play in the High School championship there. It was at the McAlpine hotel on 34th street, just a short distance from the Empire State Building. I was about 14, rated 1550, and didnt do too well, but do remember the outcome.
Three strong players were vying for the title, Paul Jacklyn, Ken Frieden and Matthew Looks. Jacklyn won it on tie-break, but got lucky in the final round. He was in a losing position against Dave Striker, on the black side of an English, but managed to find a draw by perpetual check.
I seem to remember that Michael Pastor played in the 1974 US Junior. Of the players who were in their last year in High School back in 1972-73, Daniel Shapiro (who is listed in the New York Masters website) and Eric Schiller (who moved to California and became a chess writer) still seem to be active. But most of the others seem to have given up the game.
Posted by: Gary R at May 12, 2006 14:28Gary, If it's a specific year you're interested in and a specific region (the Northeast), then I think it's fair to say there was a gap of a few years between "generations" of strong high-school-age chess players. Between the time one group graduated (Kopec was '71, Taylor probably '71, Gruchacz '72, myself '72, etc.) and the next, stronger group reached graduation -- Rohde, Wilder, Regan, et al -- there was a gap of a few years. In other words there was a little bit of a drought at the top, in the New York area at least, for the H.S. scene in '73 and maybe '74. Anyway that is my recollection.
By the way Goichberg's CCA has a Web page somewhere on his site that I think gives the whole history National High School Championship - not just winners, but detailed narratives of each year's event. I think he might have something similar for the Greater NY H.S. Championship from those years, as well, so if you want to relive the glorious past you should check it out.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at May 12, 2006 16:48Gary, If it's a specific year you're interested in and a specific region (the Northeast), then I think it's fair to say there was a gap of a few years between "generations" of strong high-school-age chess players. Between the time one group graduated (Kopec was '71, Taylor probably '71, Gruchacz '72, myself '72, etc.) and the next, stronger group reached graduation -- Rohde, Wilder, Regan, et al -- there was a gap of a few years. In other words there was a little bit of a drought at the top, in the New York area at least, for the H.S. scene in '73 and maybe '74. Anyway that is my recollection.
By the way Goichberg's CCA has a Web page somewhere on his site that I think gives the whole history National High School Championship - not just winners, but detailed narratives of each year's event. I think he might have something similar for the Greater NY H.S. Championship from those years, as well, so if you want to relive the glorious past you should check it out.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at May 12, 2006 16:50The USCF ratings list seems to show all people who were members in 1990 or later, no matter how long it had been since their last rated game. I myself haven't played any rated chess since 1983, but my rating is still there.
Posted by: Caissanist at May 15, 2006 07:28Re Robert Gruchacz--are we sure this is true? The Chicago Tribune has an online service for all obituaries over the past year, and he is not listed.
Posted by: Caissanist at May 15, 2006 07:29Norman Weinstein got rich as a currency trader. It was he who placed the famous Bankers Trust ad that David Norwood responded to; according to Weinstein, the analytic capabilities that one develops in top level chess are also very applicable to finance jobs. Two GMs and three IMs were hired in response to the ad, if I remember correctly. I believe that the GMs were Norwood and Maxim Dlugy; if anyone has any information on who the IMs were, it would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by: Caissanist at May 15, 2006 07:44Chicago Tribune, March 12, 2006:
Robert S. Gruchacz of Scottsdale, Arizona passed away March 7, 2006. Bob was born in Newark, New Jersey on November 30, 1953. He is survived by his wife, Jean, and mother, Nola. Bob was a graduate of St. Peter's Prep and also Columbia University. After college, he played chess in Europe for five years. He was an International Master in Chess. In 1981 he moved to Chicago and traded on the Chicago Options Exchange until 1999. Bob was full of life and loved by all. We will miss him very much. No services are planned at this time. Life-Paths Funeral Home, Scottsdale, handled arrangements.
Posted by: Pseudonym1 at May 15, 2006 10:05Thank you, I don't know how I missed that the first time. I have posted the obituary onto his chessgames.com player page http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=15440.
Posted by: Caissanist at May 15, 2006 13:17Here are a few items of interest regarding former players, and some who are still active but mainly involved in other professions.
www.magnetargames.com Canadian software company owned by Duncan Suttles.
www.pega.com Consulting firm owned by East Coast player Alan Trefler, who achieved some good tournament results around 1975.
The following three were all strong High School players, whom I had the pleasure of competing against in the early 1970s. They are all really brilliant guys, and it was great to have been able to meet them, as well as play against them.
Ken Frieden, New York area player, now heads the Judaic studies program at Syracuse university, and has several books in print.
Harold Boas, Chicago area player, now professor of mathematics at Texas A&M University.
Jon Frankle, originally from Iowa, now out in Silicon Valley, and a research engineer at www.cadence.com.
Posted by: Pseudonym1 at June 3, 2006 22:03I was a classmate of "Gruch" at Columbia. Caissant - just saw your note on chessgames.com about his death, very sad makes me feel mortal.With Sal Matera, Gary Klein, and Julius Loftson, Gruchacz was on the Columbia team that won the 1971 Pan American Intercollegiate Tournament. The most interesting player on the team was Gary Klein who later dropped out of school to play backgammon professionally. I asked Gary once about his last round loss in the 1970 High school championship to Robert Newbold. He replied with something I never heard from another chessplayer about a bad loss. He didn't claim to be ill, didn't show me a move he could have made which would have won, didn't whine that he had black - He told me simply that "Newbold was a better player than me".
Columbia U won the Pan-Am again in 1984 with the team of Mark Ginsburg, Jeremey Barth, Earl Hall (there is also a building at Columbia named Earl Hall!!) and Simon Yelsky. The tournament was held in Kitchener, Ontario. Earl Hall, at 2370, was a monster third board.
Posted by: Mark Ginsburg at August 21, 2006 18:30Sorry for going off-topic, but I just noticed something funny that related to another thread whose heading I can't recall, and I thought some here might appreciate hearing it.
A guy named Mark Ashland posted some comments (on one of the various World Open-related threads I think) that drew some attention partly due to his signature. He signed it something like Mark Ashland, Esq. CPA PhD MBA -- i.e., at least 2 business titles, and maybe 3 or 4.
What I just noticed, as I happened be scanning the crosstable of last year's HB Global tournament, was that Mark Ashland's USCF member file apparently also includes "CPA" after his name....so it apparently follows his name in the crosstable of each tournament he plays.
I found that rather funny.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at August 21, 2006 20:34Lots of names come to mind, many mentioned above. Tarjan is not in Palo Alto (where I was living for a few years...) but in Santa Cruz (...where I live now) -- he's a researcher at the Public Library. I have yet to run into him there. I know he quit chess and went back to school in 1981 or so, did the analysis room commentary at the U.S. Open in Pasadena (the one where Korchnoi played and tied for 1st after Kasparov didn't show for their Candidates Match) but didn't play again as far as I know.
Posted by: Elliott Winslow at August 24, 2006 21:36In terms of chess players who worked at Bankers Trust, the list includes Girome Bono, Max Dlugy, Anna Gulko, Sal Matera, David Norwood, in addition to myself.
Posted by: Norman Weinstein at September 2, 2006 16:38Norman, I'd like to speak/email with you, not about chess. If you see this please email me (jacobs310@optonline.net).
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at September 3, 2006 09:48A historical digression: this story goes back to the mid-nineteenth century. As is well-known, Paul Morphy retired from serious chess in 1859, intending to pursue a career in law and philosophy. At the time, he did leave open the option of playing again. As Morphy was becoming inactive, a new player was achieving some good results in Europe, the young Austrian Ignatz von Kolisch. Kolisch wrote to Morphy inquiring as to his interest in a match, and Morphy was initially amenable.
But in 1863, when Morphy was again in Europe, he rather rudely refused to play Kolisch, citing the fact that Kolisch had only drawn matches against Adolf Anderssen and Louis Paulsen. This was uncharacteristic for Morphy, who was known for his courtesy, and it also was largely unwarranted, since Paulsen was significantly stronger in 1863 than he had been in 1857-58.
Morphy’s retirement from chess has been the subject of speculation, but his own statement of his reasons is clear enough. The following is from a letter than he wrote to a friend in 1863:
“We are all following with intense anxiety the tremendous conflict now raging beyond the Atlantic. Under such circumstances you will readily understand that I should feel little disposed to engage in the objectless strife of the chess board. I am more strongly confirmed than ever in the belief that the time devoted to chess is literally frittered away. It is, to be sure, a most exhilarating sport, but it is only a sport. And it is not to be wondered at that those who
have been passionately addicted to this charming pastime should
one day ask themselves whether sober reason does not advise its
utter dereliction.”
Morphy would of course come to blame chess for the failure of his legal career, but there were other reasons. In 1860, he had taken a strong stand against secession. His legal reasoning was quite similar to the decisions issued by the Supreme Court at the time. But it made him unpopular in the South. Even after the war, the business leaders of New Orleans were for the most part former officers in the Confederate army, who were not prepared to admit that the war had been a mistake. While Morphy’s views on the Confederacy were ultimately vindicated by history, he was ahead of his time.
In an ironic coincidence, Morphy and Kolisch abandoned the game completely at about the same time. Kolisch had just won the strong tournament in Paris in the summer of 1867. But at this point, he moved to Vienna and founded a bank. Within ten years, Kolisch had become extremely wealthy. He continued to support chess, but no longer played. If Morphy has come down in history as the “pride and sorrow of chess”, Kolisch was one of the game’s most underrated players, who later achieved considerable success in his profession.
Norman,
Are you the same Norman Weinstein who attended MIT during 1967-1971 and was a resident of Burton 3rd? As I recollect, I played you about 400 times and never won. I always wondered what happened to you.
Posted by: Marv Luse at November 28, 2006 02:12Does anyone know whatever happened to some players from Long Island who were active first in the 1970s, and may have continued to play after that?
Danny Shapiro
Matt Looks
Dan Jacklyn, Paul Jacklyn
Thanks.
Loren (chess fan)
Posted by: Loren at December 6, 2007 18:32Danny Shapiro still plays occasionally. He is an FM, I believe; I think he still lives in the NY area. I spent some time with him during the 2006 World Open.
Parenthetically, since computer cheating was a huge subject during that tournament, and Danny knew I was a prominent anti-cheating activist, he stunned me with this story: He was one of the opponents of what may have been the very first over-the-board computer cheater ever to make headlines - the infamous, and rather hilarious, dreadlocked "John von Neumann", at the World Open way, way back in 1993!
Matthew Looks was something like my "permanent opponent" (a phrase Kasparov once used about Karpov) in the early 1970s: it seems we faced each other in almost every tournament we played in. I last saw him in Manhattan about 10 or 15 years ago, I think. Don't know what he's up to now.
I thought all of the Jacklyns had left chess by 1980 or so. But, while absent-mindedly perusing the back pages of a recent issue of Chess Life, I noticed that Herbert Jacklyn - their father - was listed as a donor to the USCF or one of its trusts.
Posted by: Jon Jacobs at December 6, 2007 20:01






