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The US has a top ten player for the first time since Kamsky 1.0, but Hikaru Nakamura is only in St. Louis as a spectator. With the two-time champ out of the picture, Kamsky 2.0 (2.5?) is the top seed in this year's US Championship. He's also defending his title, come though it did after a four-way tie for first, three rapid playoff games, and a draw on the black side of an armageddon blitz game against Yuri Shulman. (Yeah, I had to look that up. Interesting format, yes. Memorable having the title go to a drawn armageddon blitz game, not so much.) The rest of America's Got Talent is on hand as well, including Onischuk and a surprise wildcard who holds more US titles than anyone else in the field -- or anyone living other than Walter Browne -- Yasser Seirawan!

Well, that sounded good, but actually Shabalov also has four titles and is also playing. But it's still a pleasant surprise to see Yaz in action on US soil. Since moving to the Netherlands years ago he's played only slightly more than Reshevsky, who has the excuse of being dead. Seirawan actually enters as the third seed at 2636. He plays a few Dutch league games every year, crossing swords with the likes of Houben and van Kerkhof, whose names may not even be household names in their own households. (According to my database, the 2200 van Kerkhof even had the temerity to beat Seirawan when they met last year. The nerve.) Seirawan did beat GM Werle in a nice game a few months ago, and we'll soon see what a few games per year for eight years does to your chess.

Or maybe we won't, depending on how this unusual format plays out. Two groups of eight play round-robin style to determine four semifinalists for match play. As we've seen in the past, from US championships to Dortmund, small groups can provide very conservative chess, the way a slow pack of distance runners just try to keep each other in sight. This would seem to be even more the case with two qualifiers from each group, since a single rabbit starting with two or three wins doesn't mean everyone has play aggressively to catch up. There's no real advantage to finishing first in your group, other than the $2000 bonus, which is nothing to sneeze at but nothing to risk qualification over. Many early draws usually lead to more draws since losing one game probably puts you out of contention. But things can get wild if there are a flurry of decisive games at the start, since the losers know they have a very short time to claw back to a plus. Let's hope for the latter. The info page doesn't explain how the tiebreaks work for the group phase, which will almost surely be relevant. Nor does the page mention move minimums or other anti-short-draw rules, but I assume they are again in effect.

There are youngsters in each group as well, with Robson, Hess, Shankland, and Naroditsky hoping to shock the usual suspects. Should be great. It also highlights that there are really only two "prime" American chessplayers at the moment, age-wise. Nakamura is obviously one, at 23, but there's only a single player in the entire field between 19 and 35, Akobian at 27, a remarkable gap. 35 is hardly over the hill, of course, as Kamsky, Shulman, and Onischuk continue to show, but Nakamura is going to feel pretty lonely in around five years unless at least a couple of the four teen dreams continue as professionals. I hope they get the support to at least make it a possibility. The first prize is a massive $40,000, one of the largest purses in chess to my knowledge. The total prize fund is $166,000. Kudos once more to the Saint Louis club and its primary benefactor, Rex Sinquefield.

Play begins Friday at 2pm local (CDT), 3pm New York. Live here or on the ICC, of course. Will you be able to follow the games on mobile devices this year? iPad, iPhone, Android? The inability of millions of iPeople to follow live chess from an official site is a tragicomedy of the tech backwater chess habitually occupies. Since I have Flash on my Nexus S running Android I can usually get a DGT/Toma board, though sizing it manually is annoying and replaying a game by hitting the miniaturized buttons is laborious at best. Why isn't there a simple mobile live viewer in HTML5? Did I miss it? iPhone users don't even get Flash. There is an ICC app though; how's that for watching pro events? They should offer a free version just for viewing with chat and a paid version that blocks all the twits who shout "blunder!" at super GMs after every other move because their chess programs changed their evals by 0.63.

The US Women's Ch runs concurrently, with Zatonskih and defending champ Krush as the heavy favorites. They have won the last five titles between them.

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Glad that the US Championship is about to begin. A shame that it starts the same weekend as the scholastic nationals, though. Would like to see Kamsky do well, then beat Topalov in 3 weeks.

Would like to see the Women's title not be held concurrently with the men...no way will Krush or Zatonskih turn down the $ they will make in the women's field in order to play in the higher quality field of the main championship. Krush's run in the main field last year was one of the big stories of that event.

Nice that America finally has a legit top-10 player who is a product of the scholastic American system. Hopefully the quick drawing/lack of fighting chess days of Benjamin, Fedorowicz, Dlugy, DeFirmian, Yermolinsky, etc. at the US championships are behind us, but I'm not holding my breath.

Mig - This being a chess blog that many follow, you still did not find it prudent to mention that the Reigning World Champion just became a dad!

Or do you only post paid news on Magnus Carlsen endorsing a new brand of underwear?

Or when Garry decides to prop his bank balance by playing another meaningless simul?

Not surprised that you have to periodically defend yourself about being an Anand hater

George,

1) Fantasizing about teenagers' underwear is bad for your health.

2) Don't curse the darkness, light a candle.... find (or sponsor) a MEANINGFUL simul for Kasparov.

3) No one hates Anand. Even professional malcontents like Silvio and Veselin find him only mildly annoying.

greg, stop being a smarta$$.
I can give you half a dozen headlines Mig would've come up with if Carlsen's neice was getting engaged.
even Kramnik got an honorable mention when he bacame a dad. And dont try to convince me that Mig missed it. He is the World Champ in the sport we all follow, for cryin out loud.

Congrats Vishy on becoming a dad! Apologies I have to steal another thread to convey my regards though. The prominent chess blogger of our times dosent give a $hit about you.
:)

Pretty sure hosting the two events simultaneously is the best thing the STLCC ever did as this forces Krush and Zatonskih to pick which honey pot to dip in. This opened up two spots in the US Champs for better competitors - excellent!

Are you sure mig the prize fund is 166,000 cause the STL site is claiming 230,000!

I have to say that the system last year was insane (Yes I didn't have to look up Kamsky's draw over Shulman creating him US Champ...) How does a guy that didn't lose at all and tied with the winner not get a co-title?

But this year is even more weird with the majorly uneven fields...

Kamsky,Shulman,Akobian yet Onischuk in the other? Onischuk has a much easier field.

FYI,

My android is able to watch games just fine through chessgames.com chessbomb: http://livechess.chessdom.com/site/
http://chessok.com/
and had no trouble with the amber home site. So I really think this is just an example of UE. Don't blame the websites when they work just fine.

The groups are split by rating:

Player 1 in group A, players 2 and 3 in group B, players 4 and 5 in group A, 6 and 7 in group B, etc, all the way through the 16 players.

not sure I agree about the double hosting of the two events... just look Onischuk and Finegold were kicked off the air during their analysis for Foisor to show Krush's one move blunder in time pressure.

But yea you're right about the two mens fields being way uneven.

Not to pick nits, since I didn't care for the format either, but last year there wasn't a 4-way tie for first or 3 rapid playoff games or armageddon *blitz* tiebreakers.

There was a 4-way tie after the 7th round: Kamsky, Shulman, Onischuk, and Nakamura. This was a fortunate number to be tied actually, since at that point the top 4 were to split off into a quad (mini RR) to determine the champion, with scores from the previous 7 rounds carrying over. Gata and Yuri were tied after the 3 rounds of the quad, having beaten Alex and Hikaru respectively.

Then there was a single armageddon game, with each bidding blind to choose the amount of time they were willing to take for the right to choose black, with the other player having 60 minutes, and an increment (a full 30 seconds if I remember correctly) for both sides.

It was this concept of rapid -or slower really- time control that seemed silliest to me, since with an increment especially, correct strategy for a decent rapid player seems like it should be to bid extremely low for the right to draw odds. I mean if Hikaru had been in that situation, could anybody fault him for bidding 5 minutes? Really Gata's winning bid of I believe, 28 minutes, was too conservative, unless he was really selling Yuri's rapid skills short, as Yuri himself apparently did with a bid of I think 40 minutes.

However, I guess at the end of the day, I don't really have a place to complain about the format, until I'm ready to fork up a few hundred grand to host my own championship.

Comment from "no":
"But this year is even more weird with the majorly uneven fields..."

One group has an average FIDE rating of 2578.75, and the other has an average of 2579.5

If you are not going to use ratings to divide the field, what else would you use? Draw lots? Vote? Crystal ball?

What's with the crap relay? Games transmitted for 16 moves and then all the moves changed (Christiansen-Seirawan)!!!And not just once! And other games garbled to schmeg as well! (yes it's free and I can't complain....)

Seirawan's Dutch league opponents in 2009/2010 included Swinkels, Sipke Ernst, Siebrecht, Klovans and Winants - not terribly strong, but not as weak either as Mig suggests at least between the lines (all GMs).

Seirawan played a pretty ugly one with Christiansen. Grabbing pawns against Larry C is not the way to get back into shape.

I'm not crazy about the Armegeddon Tie-Break, but Shulman did bid conservatively, thus allowing Kamsky to grab the "Draw Odds".

For what it's worth, Shulman got a better, probably winning, position as White, before losing the thread. Kamsky might have been winning the final position, but for him a Draw was as good as a win.

Kamsky lamented that he bid TOO low.

Not to disparage the many fine readers here, who's most astute comments keeping me coming back again, and again, and again. But some folks here, and Mig who I otherwise appreciate fully, seem to try to make Seirawan wrong.

Few here approach his level even from where he is today. He plays PLENTY at ICC, and I do mean plenty, and regularly. Yes, yes you say, 3 0 and 5 0 is not Classic chess, but you try beating Rabajov at 5 0 and getting to the top in the world or near in ICC 5 0 while doing so. Hardly totally out of it.

But he makes no claim to super GM but enjoys playing. He HAS been active in the Dutch team, and unsparring and giving to those around him.

He reached, what was it, 9th in the world (Sonas +/- or close to two or three years apart), beat Karpov once 3X in a row in blitz, 'Yasser, no one ever did that' said Anatoly. He beat Kasparov. And well. Not too many times, that I know, but nevertheless.

He is constructive if not polite, and even wrote a good book, that few could lay claim to, what, playing many a WCC.

He coached Smeets and Stellwagen for an undisclosed amount, but truly a gift of kindness.

Now, why is this a problem? Is his appearing, even not quite what he once was a problem? Why must we all take what is absent and not enjoy what is present?

This reminds me of the (not all of them, for sure) food critics on the otherwise most enjoyable foot critics on Food Network (TV) who rip the chef, who cannot cook very well, making a living by disparaging others, or the NT Times art critics. Enjoy his play, and his appearance cannot hurt US Chess. No harm done. Let the man enjoy his sojourn.

Nakamura finally took US Chess to an even higher level, and so now, Yasser is NOT the greatest American Chess Players since Fischer, and that is not anything to be ashamed of.

While not doing prep for the Caro-Kahn, he might have been out and about comprehending the next thing like globalism or proving commentary or helping others.

Thank you. dk

Readers, please forgive my faux pass. Not you. But general assertion still clear (That said: two days off in four weeks running a tech start up, and I am TIRED).

My mix up pinpointing reader was with Dennis Monokroussos whom I have great respect for. A most bright mind, and in volume. He was the one who, its seemed to me do what I described. Making what should be a plus, not a minus. Dennis should do as well!

Again, my sincerely apology.

Ah good ol Yasser. I remember his fine magazine well. I even remember his comments on a game he played very similar to the one he lost there (with same pawn chain n´all). Everyone loves a comeback (except from 80s bands), lets hope he lands a punch or two.

Pardon. Nakais the best since Fischer LMAO.....and Kamsky is where????

I think you get his general point though.

Kamsky is a great chess player. And he is an American--nw. But I do not consider his record over time to be that of a great American chess player, beyond these two. As far as on a global basis, why of course, what was he, world top three or such? But he was playing in Russian then.

'... Kamsky is a great chess player. And he is an American--now'.

Uh...no. Kamsky has been an American since at least 1991. If you want to knock his Russian upbringing, you can say that he didn't ascend to super-GM status using the American scholastic chess system, as Naka did. But when Kamsky was #4 in the world and playing Karpov for the FIDE title, he was representing the USA.

- Correction: Kamsky defected to US in 1989, at age of 15 even before getting GM title. He became US champ in 1991 and rose to world #3 in mid 90's. One can argue that he is a product of Russian chess school, one can take Donald Tramp approach to birth rights, but then neither Seirawan nor Nakamura were born in US:).

Kamsky was already two times USSR Junior Champion in 1989, which is a great deal. In year of defection he got shared second place with Miles after Gelfand in 184 player Grandmaster GMA World Cup Qualifier at Palma. So he already was a GM strength player in 1989. That is a little bit different history than Seirawan or Nakamura.

Back to Seirawan: indeed he may be a bit off the radar for Americans because he's living in the Netherlands with his Dutch wife. Recently (February 19th this year) he won the Open Dutch Blitz Championship ahead of Kasimdzhanov, Iturrizaga, Fridman, Fier, Smeets, Fedorchuk, Sadler, Erdos and Gustafsson. Also playing were (among others) Sokolov, Naiditsch, van Wely, Timman and Speelman.
http://www.snelschaakmarathon.nl/ (mostly in Dutch)
Just blitz, but a field comparable to the one he currently faces in St. Louis, only Kamsky is a bit stronger.

But I don't know why you criticize Dennis Monokroussos, what are you referring to? In his tournament preview, he wrote "In Seirawan's case, I'm not as confident, but I'm hoping that his relish at playing his first serious chess in a long time will overcome his rust and dated theoretical knowledge." - IMO, a factual statement (subsequently confirmed by Yasser's drastic loss against Christiansen) rather than an insult. Beyond this, he has lots of respect for Seirawan - I cannot give details, they are from a private email exchange after I pointed out the above-mentioned event to him.

Mig might be "more wrong" minimizing the level of Seirawan's opposition in Dutch team competitions (cf. my earlier post in this thread).

Ok...I know it was not meant to be a fact but it really overlooks others like Sierawan and Chrtiansen,to name a couple. And as for being American one of the two has a candidates match in a month and is playing for what he calls a very prestigous title while the other lives down the street and sticks his nose up at it.

Yeah, the fact that GM Nakamura is showing up to the tournament and lives in St. Louis is certainly a little weird. If you're too good to play, at least act like you've got something better to do!! Right now it just seems like he's thinking, "I've shed points in this thing the last two years," which is professionally understandable but not the cavalier Nakamura of old. It'd be more understandable if Kamsky stepped out because of his match.

The St. Louis chess benefactors are apparently still in good terms with Naka despite the supposed "sticks his nose up". During the interview with Maurice Ashley at the tournament, he made mention of a six game match play with Ponomariov in May. Within hours, this was announced on the St. Louis Chess Club website though with few details other than the fact that this event will take place at the club and will also feature Feingold vs Korchnoi!

Why wouldn't they be on good terms with Naka? He has only done more for the American hope of chess than anyone but Fischer. I am looking forward to his match versus Ponomariov...wonder if it will be FIDE-rated.

I'm guessing the match is a first step towards St. Louis trying to put together a bid for the 2014 cycle Candidates matches...if Ponomariov likes his experience and tells other top players, it may help the USA win the bid -- especially since Carlsen has already had positive experiences in America over the past year.

no: "Kamsky,Shulman,Akobian yet Onischuk in the other? Onischuk has a much easier field."

Hehe...epic fail.

Not really. True Shankland stepped up his performance as he himself said but Onischuk still has a much easier field. The catastrophe against Hess was unimaginable for Onischuk but it happened nonetheless. Still I bet he makes the final 4 regardless.

No, he doesn't -- as the results thus far have shown. No guarantee Onischuk makes the final four (although he has a decent chance). He gets Seirawan and Shankland the last two rounds -- that's not a "much easier field".

As I said, I have great respect for Dennis Monocrosis, but here is what he said, in his note to Round Two:

http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/2011/4/16/us-championship-round-2.html

"Christiansen - Seirawan was a disappointing game, in that it seems to suggest that Seirawan's preparation for the tournament really wasn't very good. (Hopefully he did prepare seriously and this was just an isolated gap.) The variation 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nf3 e6 5.Be2 c5 6.Be3 Qb6 7.Nc3 Qxb2 8.Qb1 first got noticed in the broader chess world after the 2003 game Bologan-Palo, and was revisited in a pair of Eljanov games in 2010. First Eljanov beat Inarkiev, and then later Karjakin improved for the White side and won a complicated game against Eljanov at the Olympiad.

The key line starts 8...Qxb1+ 9.Rxb1 c4 10.Rxb7 Nc6, and here 11.Kd2, 11.Kd1 and 11.Nb5 have all been tried by strong players. Seirawan, however, uncorked 8...Qxc2??, a novelty that had not been prepared beforehand, and was simply lost after 9.Qb5+ Nd7 10.Rc1. Christiansen played well, winning in 23 moves, but for a player of his caliber the headstart was way too big.

... sorry, tired after long game at chess club, weekly spring Swiss. Revise to : 'Dennis Monokroussos'.

Never claimed it was a guarantee. No such thing as a guarantee. Claimed it was an easier field and it is. Seirawan/Shankland is a great finish to have when you need to win. Much better than Say Kamsky/Shulman/Akobian.

David Korn, why don't you take your debate to Dennis instead of the wrong blog?

Yep I saw this, and for me it's just an accurate and factual description of what happened in the game. I think Seirawan admitted after the game that 8.Qb1 came as a surprise - I (Elo 1950) wouldn't have been surprised if I played the Caro-Kann with black, as I took note of the Olympiad game Karjakin-Eljanov ... .
BTW, Christiansen himself isn't too active any more, basically just the annual US Ch and some nice touristic open (Bermuda or Curacao).

Wow...Finegold vs Korchnoi...cant wait for that crap...next Yasser vs Petrosian....mmmmmm can not wait

Yeah when Finegolds' rating gets above hisweigh (2500) it would be worth a laugh..can not believe anyone wants to watch that slob play for draws and then complain to Chess Life that they only show his losses...what a loser.

Yeah,Finegold might as well play Fischer...he is younger and stronger than the decrepid Victor.....what a joke! Maybe the chess playing machineis available for him next...LMAO

Yasser has an advantage, no? He can swap light squared bishops, leaving Onischuk with a bad bishop. The d4 pawn would be fatal for Black in a pure minor piece endgame, surely.

ie I think Onischuk must love his position now. He has white against Shankland for the last round. His fate is in his own hands. A win secures his spot.

That doesn't mean that his section is "much easier" than the other group. No guarantee that he even beats Shankland.

And they'll do it again tomorrow in the rapid playoff, since the game was drawn. So no, group B was definitely NOT "a much easier field" for Onischuk, as he may not even reach the semis.

Nice job by Hess so far to finish clear first in his group. He seems to always rise to the occasion for the U.S. championship. It's a shame for U.S. chess fans that we'll probably lose another young talent to Wall Street.

FYI...Mig, we have video excerpts from the live show viewable on iOS at www.USChessChamps.com/Video

Elo-wise, both groups were as equally strong as possible, their "actual strength" depended in part on Seirawan's current level - in the end he scored 50% and neither deceived nor impressed.
On the other hand (no matter how the Onischuk-Shankland tiebreak ends) group B had the stronger youngsters: at least currently, Hess and Shankland are stronger than Robson and Naroditsky.

Rd. 7 Finegold-Shabalov indicates 1-0 even though White only has a King (v. King + B + N) at the end, after 95 Kc6. Did Black forfeit on time? Or is "1-0" a typo, or what? Anyone have a clue?

OK, they finally corrected it (checked the USCF site, then TWIC), both the score [0-1] and the moves (95...Kb4 was the last move before Finegold resigned. Makes a LOT more sense...!

Even though Onischuk was majorly off form he STILL has a chance to make playoffs. This just shows HOW much easier his field is. There is no two ways around this. His field was 10 times easier than the other field.

No, Onishchuk didn't make the playoffs. He self-destructed in his second endgame vs. a 19-year old (first one against Hess; granted the second, vs. Shankland, was rapid chess). I'll say he was majorly off-form...

Any news on how Kamsky's health is? Reportedly he had chest pains yesterday during his last game, which was why they allowed a draw before 30 moves had expired.

et al. I am appreciative of the support for Kamsky.

As it then, less a matter of Kamsky not being very significant in the chronology of American chess, and more to say that Seirawan can be appreciated for what he has done, and to respect his playing now for what he is, not what he is not.

Thank you. I stand corrected. Peace.

Yasser Seirawan has class. When I was in St. Louis last weekend he graciously signed three of his books for me and chatted for a few minutes. He went to the commentary room after his crushing loss to Larry Christiansen and talked frankly about the game; he could have passed on that, but he didn't. I hope he plays in the championship in 2012; I'm sure he will do better then, since, unlike this year, he won't be coming off an eight year layoff from tournament play.

Epic fail...now he lost because he was "off form", not because he simply wasn't good enough in the tougher section? Just admit how wrong you were and move on. The excuses are getting lame.

That post was BEFORE he lost dumbass. I did not make an excuse for his loss it was very clear he's off form hence I said that BEFORE he lost - well before (look at the fucking timestammp you idiot). Anyways, Nakamura was on the broadcast talking about how he has noticed a huge decline in Onischuk's form over the last 6 months.

Of course to the final point, was his field weaker? Yes. Did that mean he should be as you say *guaranteed* to get through? Obviously not. So to the answer was I wrong? Absolutely not.

It's still unclear to me how you gauge the strength of the fields. As others pointed out, it isn't based on Elo (a possibly flawed approach, but still the best one we have). So it must be players' reputation, where you rate Akobian rather highly (not that HE confirmed it in the event), while Seirawan is "too old", but Hess and Shankland are "too young"?

If there was an imbalance between the groups, it was unavoidable after Nakamura dropped out. From a European perspective, the USA have just (or as many as) two established players - I use rather stringent criteria which include stable Elo >2700, supertournament invitations and actual or potential role in (forthcoming) WCh cycles.

Kamsky could only play in one group, Nakamura preferred to watch, comment on and criticize his colleagues. The fact that he was at the venue (rather than at home preparing for the Bazna tournament) suggests to me that he dropped out because he was afraid of some damage to his Elo and/or ego, rather than due to his "official reasons" ... .

I agree with you about Nakamura.

Re: splitting the groups it was just a very very dumb idea of the Shahades. Since you have no way of decently splitting the groups the idea for oding so should never have been considered.

Last two posts...spot on!

Nakamura very candidly stated in his interview with Maurice Ashley at the St. Louis Chess Club that he was indeed leery of "losing" elo points by playing everything "like what happens to Ivanchuk". Surely he is not the only "top" player harboring this type of fear.

So what if he shows up to critique the games rather than playing. The Ponomariov match, arranged through the same folks at the St. Louis Chess club is just three weeks away. Since he actually works for the club as a consultant, he may in fact feel compelled to show up during the tournament.

Nakamura very candidly stated in his interview with Maurice Ashley at the St. Louis Chess Club that he was indeed leery of "losing" elo points by playing everything "like what happens to Ivanchuk". Surely he is not the only "top" player harboring this type of fear.

So what if he shows up to critique the games rather than playing. The Ponomariov match, arranged through the same folks at the St. Louis Chess club is just three weeks away. Since he actually works for the club as a consultant, he may in fact feel compelled to show up during the tournament.

Nothing a priori wrong with not wanting to risk Elo points, even though (as far as I remember) Nakamura criticized others for such an apparent attitude until he reached their level himself ... . In any case, it makes more sense than "I want to concentrate on becoming world champion" - which is a long-term project as he doesn't play a role in the current cycle. Noone would have been surprised if Kamsky had dropped out for such a reason, or a more modest/realistic "I need to prepare for the candidates event".

Criticizing games isn't quite the same as (personally) criticizing colleagues. I referred to "no"'s quote "I [Nakamura] noticed a huge (sic) decline in Onischuk's form ...." - I have to assume that he wasn't misquoting.
Checking Onischuk's results since he left the 2700+ club (he had Elo 2701 on the July 2010 list), there are
- two bad Opens (World Open and Gibraltar)
- an arguably mediocre Olympiad (though anyone can lose against Karjakin, and BTW Nakamura's own result wasn't all convincing either), but also
- two rather decent round robin events: Spice Cup (shared first) and Reggio Emilia (50% in a strong field).
So where's the huge decline in Onischuk's form? It looks like Nakamura put some salt in open wounds ... at best he didn't follow Onischuk that closely or has a selective memory, at worst he was talking deliberate nonsense.

Of course he field wasn't weaker...obviously. Onischuk's form hadn't significantly dropped. He just wasn't good enough this year. The end.

I watched and played through all the games in the tourney, and found Onishchuk's decline in form rather apparent. His opening play was flaccid, rarely leading to opening advantage, and he played execrable endgames vs. Hess and Shankland (ok, the latter was rapid, so there's *some* excuse).

Yep. You're right. Pioneer is just a dumbass.

So, how exactly are you qualified to judge that the play of a near 2700-rated grandmaster is "flaccid" or "execrable"?

Yeah I could maybe see flaccid but execrable...no way.

Maybe Onischuk's form was bad in this given tournament - he may regret most that he declined Hess' draw offer - but not throughout the last six months. In any case (and while I often disagree with pioneer) I wouldn't call a fellow poster a dumbass just because he has a different opinion.

In this case, its not an opinion - it is a fact. Onischuk was interviewed and stated he is off for some reason. He cited his play at Gibraltar 'as even worse.'

One should note - while no's dumbass comment is certainly out of line - that it is clearly incited and enticed by pioneer's repeated 'epic fail' comments that are even more out of line (especially since they don't even apply!).

FYI, Nakamura writes an article here:http://www.stlbeacon.org/voices/blogs/on-chess/109839-nakamura-gets-to-observe

"On the other hand, many people (myself included) were highly disappointed in the play from Onischuk (ranked number three in the United States by rating) who failed to advance after losing a playoff against 19-year-old Sam Shankland."

I didn't say that pioneer deserves a beauty prize, but his comments were in turn provoked by no's persistent claims that Onischuk had a much easier field - which in turn is somewhat insulting to Hess and Shankland. Onischuk's own words are also "just an opinion": of course he quotes bad form, could we really expect him to say "(I agree with pioneer,) I am simply not good enough" ?! Not that I agree with pioneer (100%) ... .

On-topic (sort of), I agree with you that there is "no way of decently splitting the groups". The basic problem is that different types of players are involved:
- established and mature ones (Kamsky, Shulman, Onischuk)
- young rising stars who may be underrated (Hess, Shankland, Robson, Naroditsky)
- old semi-inactive players (Seirawan, Christiansen) where experience may compensate for rustiness
[I refrain from classifying the other players, as I don't know the US chess scene well enough]

The general point would be: does it really make sense to "innovate for the sake of innovating"??

Gosh that was some awful chess... biggest props to Tatev, in my opinion. The fighting spirit was strong with that one.

That's generally the case when you have 2 exhausted 2400s battling it out in rapid chess after playing chess everyday for pretty much all of the last 2 weeks.

Playing one game a day is hardly "exhausting"...compared to tournaments like the World Open where you play 2 games a day against 2300+ ELO competition, it is actually not that draining.

Are you Luke?

No, I am not.

This would seem to be even more the case with two qualifiers from each group, since a single rabbit starting with two or three wins doesn't mean everyone has play aggressively to catch up.

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